Kapitalizam nije u krizi, kapitalizam JESTE kriza!
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 21:11
Peter RV
Solucija za Grcku je, izaci iz EU i Evra, vratiti se na Drahmu i zivjeti na nacin koji joj narodna imovina dozvoljava.
Ne vidim uopste zasto grcki narod treba da placa dugove koji su napravili njihovi kapitalisti- pljackasi.
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 21:20
Željko
Duboko je zaorao Mark Stajn. Sjajan članak. Poželeo sam da podelim sa prijateljima ovaj tekst, i gledam: bar polovina naših prijatelja, divnih obrazovanih ljudi,, lekara, advokata, ekonomsta, - nema decu ili nije ni zasnovalo porodicu. Ostali po jedno, najviše dvoje dece.
Poslati ili im ne poslati ovaj tekst, to je pitanje.
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 21:35
Petrushin
Upravo tako Popovicu!
Za neke - one koji kreiraju krize - ne postoje tzv. "baloni"; posto znate kada ce on da pukne. Onda taj "balon" odjednom postaje "piramida", jer, oni na vrhu nje, nikako ne mogu da izgube; dok vecina po pravilu uvijek gubi (casino capitalism).
"Balon" je postao zahvalni orvelizam, da se prikrije neizbezna "piramida", tj. kreirana kriza!
Grci su negdje pri dnu nje, s tim sto je grcka elita vec prebacila novac od jeftinih EU investicija na svoje privatne strane off-shore racune.
Radi se o nekih 40-tak milijardi evra.
Ako Ameri uzmu jos toliko preko CDS-a i raznih casino OTC instrumenata, onda moze lako da se desi da zahvati i Spaniju.
Pa opet, jovo-nanovo, dok Nemci ne kazu: dizemo ruke od evra!
Bitka za evro je bitka za prosperitetnu i mirnu Evropu!
Ne zaboravite to nikad!
Dolar je na izdisaju i jedino kolaps evra moze da odrzi bezvredni i prestampani dolar!
Pa vi na NSPM-u, navijajte...!?
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 22:25
Katon
Nista niste shvatili, kao po obicaju. Stajn napada ideologiju velike drzave, visoku potrosnju i poreze a na kapitaliste i kapitalizam. On smatra da je Grcka propala a Amerika na putu da propadne ne zbog kapitalizma, nego zbog njegovog odsustva, tj zbog sirenja drzavnog socijalizma i redistributivne drzave.
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 22:49
Petrushin
US capital productivity decline must be reversed
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The biggest problem the US is facing is the productivity of capital. After the end of the second world war it took less than $2 of investment by government, corporations and individuals to produce $1 of GDP growth. The productivity of capital continued to be impressive until 1980 when Europe had recovered and Japan was producing cars and consumer electronics products that found wide acceptance in world markets.
In the single decade of the 1980s, the productivity of capital declined from a level where it took less than $2 of investment to produce $1 of growth to one where about $3 was needed. If you assign a 30 per cent gross margin to that revenue growth, the return on investment declined from 15 per cent to 10 per cent.
That level of return proved to be satisfactory, but in the first decade of the current century capital productivity declined seriously in the US. Because of profligate spending on over-priced housing and other assets that declined seriously, as well as deficit spending by the government, by the end of the decade it took $6 of capital to produce $1 of growth. The return on that would only be 5 per cent and few would put money at risk for that reward.
When you look abroad to assess our competitive position, the results are not encouraging. It is hard to put together comparable information but, based on the data I could gather, Europe was still getting $1 of growth for $2 of investment and China was getting at least $1 of growth for each dollar of investment.
FT.COM
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Pa-pa Jameriko!
Samo da nas sledeci put ne budu ubedjivali atomskim oruzjem - od svoje silne gluposti i nemoci!
Ne daj Boze!
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ponedeljak, 08 mart 2010 23:26
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Katon je u pravu. A i Stajn.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 00:37
Odbrana i poslednji dani
U Grčkoj su ostali bez Grka, pa su se okrenuli Nemcima, kao što već rade francuski seljaci. U Nemačkoj, jedini razlog zašto Nemci mogu da subvencionišu Francusku poljoprivredu jeste što svoj vojni budžet za odbranu uvaljuju Amerikancima. A u Americi, predsednik Obama, Nensi Pelozi i Heri Rejd govore kako bi trebalo da veslamo brže da bismo sustigli Grke i Nemce. Šta bi moglo da pođe po zlu?
Šta nam napriča ovaj čovek.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 00:38
m. -ić
Pa ako mora ipak svak da gleda svoja posla, svak za svoj račun, svak o svom trošku, zašto su se udruživali u europsku zajednicu? Toliko vike o prednostima zajednice, fondovima za pomaganje onih koji su manje imućni, solidarnost, evropske vrednosti, idimidođimi... Pa gde je sada sve to? Čemu europska zajednica? Izgleda jedino da se širi severoatlanski pakt, i to jedino s ciljem da uništava pravoslavne Slovene.
Što se Srbije tiče, sve je jasnije da je izbor između europe i potpunog prestanka Srbije, i nestanka Srba kao naroda, ili udaljavanje što je više moguće od europe, i živeti na svome od svojega. Usput, mora se, naravno, zahtevati, povratak sve ukradene imovine, a pre svega teritorija pod okupacijom euroatlantske narkomafije. Sve u svemu, vreme je da se osnuje nova stranka u Srbiji, s programom koji nema pristupanje kojekakvim europskim čivijašlucima. Makar ne na prvoj strani.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 02:26
op
Izuzetan tekst.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 02:38
nonna
I sad neko treba da oplakuje rasipnike, je li? Problem je šta ćemo s lopovima, kako onim koji nam pljačkaju imovinu, tako i onim koji nam gube dragoceno vreme.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 10:38
brm
katon i štajn su u pravu .. a vi ostali pljuvači kapitalizma upitajte se ko je stvorio ambijent da dobrostojeći seljaci, zanatlije, sitni obrtnici zbog naduvanog evra (da bi se uvozila roba nemačkih multi-kompanija), bankrotiraju pored toliko bogomdanih maslina, pomorandži i sl. i turizma i hvataju se državne službe. KAKVE TO VEZE IMA SA KAPITALIZMOM?
ista vam je priča u Srbijji samo još gora..zar je normalno da ćata, podstanar u BGD bolje živi od njegovog zemljaka vlasnika plantaža jabuka i šljiva?
a hrana u svetu (a "Beograd je svet")preskupa i sve skuplja i skuplja
problem i tamo i vamo je ŠTO (više) NEMA KAPITALIZMA, LIBERALNE EKONOMIJE I DEMOKRATIJE
al ima Miška i Mlađana
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 17:21
Petrushin
Da se vratimo stvarnosti:
Funds' role in Greek drama examined
By Sam Jones, Hedge Fund Correspondent
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Until recently, the cost of buying such protection was very cheap, with few in the market seeing a sovereign default as a likely event. Indeed, until the banking crisis hit in 2008, 10-year CDS protection on Greek government debt could be purchased for as little as 20 basis points - 0.2 per cent of the amount insured - per annum.
The hedge funds buying up the CDS protection, however, did so without owning the underlying bonds. This so-called "naked" CDS trading is a particular issue regulators are keen to look into. The funds buying up Greek CDS in 2009 were not expecting to profit from an actual Greek default.
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Hedge funds anticipated that if the Greek government's financial situation deteriorated - as they expected - then the owners of the approximately $300bn of outstanding Greek bonds, would be desperate for credit protection, or else would look to sell their holdings.
Having already locked in credit protection cheaply, if such a situation were to occur - as it did - the hedge funds would then be in a position to write credit insurance at a significant premium to panicking banks, or else buy up Greek bonds being dumped in the market for a decent yield. In the event, the trade paid handsomely.
Insiders say bank-run hedging operations, known as CVA desks, which are classed as risk management units rather than proprietary traders, have been the biggest recent buyers of CDS on Greece and have been the main cause of Greek spreads widening.
ft.com
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 19:27
Miloš Obrenović
Katon je u pravu - Stajn napada ideologiju velike države. Ali Stajn nije u pravu.
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 19:32
Petrushin
I ne radi se ovdje samo o Grckoj, nego o svim drzavama,kompanijama i institucijama, koje su navucene na "naked CDS"*:
How investment banks got Italy’s local authorities hooked on derivatives
The most common was the interest rate swap, which in the case of the larger entities was often coupled with a bond issue. The local authority would pay, on a monthly or quarterly basis, an amount of interest on either a fixed or floating rate basis. In return they received floating or fixed rate amounts (which could be used to pay interest on the bond issue, if any). By doing this local authorities hoped to get lower interest rates and cut their borrowing costs. Whether they did so mostly depended on movements in eurozone interest rates.
According to Italian Treasury sources and those advising the authorities, the majority of these deals were on fair commercial terms. However, advisers say that in some cases the pricing of the swaps was modelled in such a way that the authority would lose money in almost any economic environment and would have to pay significant amounts to unwind the transaction.
Upper and lower limits on interest rate movements – “caps” and “floors” – were set so as to minimise the risk for the bank. For example, even if interest rates fell below the percentage identified as the “floor”, the entity would still be required to pay interest calculated at the “floor” percentage. Upfront payments, effectively a cash advance, could be incorporated into a transaction to benefit the town or city at the start of a deal, but in return they would usually have to pay higher rates in the longer term, which could cause losses to add up. Banks could also restructure swaps to extend their maturity. Like a personal loan this would have the effect of reducing outgoing payments in the short term but those payments would run for much longer and the final sum would often be higher...
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*Time to outlaw naked credit default swaps by Wolfgang Münchau
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utorak, 09 mart 2010 19:36
Petrushin
An exposed position
By Rachel Sanderson, Guy Dinmore and Gillian Tett
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Between 2001 and 2008, 525 Italian local authorities entered into almost 1,000 interest rate swaps with an aggregate value of €35bn, according to Italy’s audit office and the central bank. This equates to almost one third of all of the debt owed by Italy’s regions, provinces and municipalities.
Local authorities were attracted to the swaps because they saw them as an opportunity to borrow at rates lower than prevailing market rates. They would swap their existing fixed-rate lending for a variable rate with the investment banks. In a period of low rates, when many of the deals were struck, this meant local authorities on a variable rate could find their borrowing costs shrank. However, as interest rates rose, local authorities would find themselves on the losing side of their bet with the banks as the amount they owed increased.
Scores of these deals are now turning sour, dragging Italian banks such as BNL and global institutions such as Merrill Lynch, UBS, Deutsche Bank and JPMorgan into court
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Then, the same year, the municipality of Milan lodged a legal case accusing banks that in 2005 underwrote a €1.8bn bond and swap financing transaction – Deutsche, JPMorgan, UBS and Depfa, a German state institution – of making €100m profit at the city’s expense. In a parallel criminal case, bankers, including Gaetano Bassolino of UBS, the son of a Naples politician, were accused of aggravated fraud. The banks, which are fighting the accusations, declined to comment.
The dispute relating to the Milan transaction is considered a test case. Questions remain as to who will pick up the tab for the losses. The Treasury has distanced itself from the disputes and says the losses do not present a macroeconomic problem. Giulio Tremonti, finance minister, calls the impact “very limited”.
Stajn priča kao Amer, iz američke perspektive ni jednog trenutka ne pomišljajući (ili ako to zna onda ne spominjući) da još od prve velike ekonomske krize tridesetih nijedna sledeća nije ni slučajna ni nekontrolisana. A to što su Grci odlučili da zbog EU (uostalom kao i mi) žive na kredit i daleko iznad svojih mogućnosti, pa za to nije kriv narod nego vlada koja je lažirala statistike zarad ulaska u EU. E sad, ko može toliko naivan da bude pa da kaže da članice EU nisu imale uvid u pravo stanje. Dužničko ropstvo i kraj priče. Ništa nije slučajno.
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sreda, 10 mart 2010 01:15
Dejan P.
Stvarno mi se dopada ovaj tekst.Mislim da je analiza na pravom mestu.Vecina problema potice od nataliteta(odnosno njegovog pada) u celoj Evropi.Cemu uopste bilo kakve price o blagostanju,standardu,privredi i, u krajnjem slucaju,drzavi ako nece biti nikog da u tome sudeluje.Samo to jos uvek nije jasno nasem narodu odnosno onoj mladjoj populaciji koja se uljuljkuje i zivi u nekom svom izmastanom svetu u kome nema nikakvih obaveza,odricanja,zrtvovanja,nesebicnosti,..,cak stavise,postoje samo zahtevana prava,egoizam,sebicluk!
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sreda, 10 mart 2010 03:26
Dejan Liberaltijanac
Mislim da nema potrebe da se Stajn toliko brine za Ameriku i njenu budućnost - kao da je zaboravio priliv imigranata, uključujući i ilegalne (milione njih). Potrebno je još samo malo relaksirati uslove za imigraciju, i imaće ko da plaća američke penzionere. Kod Grka i nekih drugih država južne Evrope (npr. Srbije), stvari međutim ne izgledaju dobro.
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sreda, 10 mart 2010 16:37
@
Nije Stajn zaboravio na imigrante, mada ih ne pominje u ovom tekstu. Njegov stav je da 'drzava blagostanja' sprecava asimilaciju. Iz te perspektive, efekti procesa o kojima prica su po drustvo jos i gori kad se imigranti uzmu u obzir.
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sreda, 10 mart 2010 17:28
Brut
Katon je u pravu.
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četvrtak, 11 mart 2010 08:51
TDR
Nazalost, pod naslovom "Nova Srpska politicka misao" clanak izvesnog Marc Stain-a, Republican, Libertarian.
To je partija i njen ogranak koja mrzi sve sto je zajednicko i namenjeno zajednici. Gospodo pre nego sto zauzmete stavove, razmotrite cinjenice, ko pise i zasto. Gore pomenuti pisac clanka, iz dna duse mrzi sve tekovine evropskog drustva, koje je omugucilo svojim stanovnicima sve ono sto je uskraceno piscevim sunarodnicima. Ono sto Vam, kako se sam ispravno deklarise sebicni, Mark Stain nudi su tekovine sistema koji je zdravstvo pretvorio u biznis te kao rezultat toga 50 miliona amerikanaca su bez ikakvog zdravstvenog osiguraja, a i oni koji su osigurani moraju nakon svake posete lekaru da provedu par dana na telefonu svadjajuci se sa svojim osiguranjem da prizna i plati troskove. To je sistem gde ljudi priterani, zbog bolesti moraju da idu u bankrot. Marc i njegovi istomisljenici bi da ukinu sve drustvene skole, i koji bi da obrazovanje okrenu ili u profit ili u religiozne "self schooling" To je sistem koji trenutno ima najvise zatvorenika per capita, a privatni zatvori su jedan od biznisa koji su u velikom isponu. Zbog toga je u Pensilvaniji sudija bezrazlozno osudjivao decu i slao ih u privatni zatvor na nezasluzeno dugacke kazne, da bi se kasnije ustanovilo da je delio profit po svakom osudjenom detetu. Marc daje recept za natalitet iz sistema gde majka ima samo 60 dana porodiljskog bolovanja, a i to bi ukinuli samo da moze?
Gospodine Stain, dovoljno ste zla svojom sebicnoscu naneli svojim sugradjanima, nemojte nama pricati o natalitetu i brizi o deci. Vasom sebicnoscu napravili ste da Vam deca zavrsavaju skole sa toliko velikim dugom koga ne mogu da se oslobode najmanje pola svog radnog veka. Nisu Obamini nego Busevi dugovi izazvani ratom i smanjivanjem takse najbogatijima.
Gospodo, upravo ovim recima Marc Stain-a americko drustvo je unisteno gledano od vremena Regana pa do danas. Oni koji su najvise verovali ovim recima su sada najpogodjeniji.
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Ne vidim uopste zasto grcki narod treba da placa dugove koji su napravili njihovi kapitalisti- pljackasi.
Poslati ili im ne poslati ovaj tekst, to je pitanje.
Za neke - one koji kreiraju krize - ne postoje tzv. "baloni"; posto znate kada ce on da pukne. Onda taj "balon" odjednom postaje "piramida", jer, oni na vrhu nje, nikako ne mogu da izgube; dok vecina po pravilu uvijek gubi (casino capitalism).
"Balon" je postao zahvalni orvelizam, da se prikrije neizbezna "piramida", tj. kreirana kriza!
Grci su negdje pri dnu nje, s tim sto je grcka elita vec prebacila novac od jeftinih EU investicija na svoje privatne strane off-shore racune.
Radi se o nekih 40-tak milijardi evra.
Ako Ameri uzmu jos toliko preko CDS-a i raznih casino OTC instrumenata, onda moze lako da se desi da zahvati i Spaniju.
Pa opet, jovo-nanovo, dok Nemci ne kazu: dizemo ruke od evra!
Bitka za evro je bitka za prosperitetnu i mirnu Evropu!
Ne zaboravite to nikad!
Dolar je na izdisaju i jedino kolaps evra moze da odrzi bezvredni i prestampani dolar!
Pa vi na NSPM-u, navijajte...!?
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The biggest problem the US is facing is the productivity of capital. After the end of the second world war it took less than $2 of investment by government, corporations and individuals to produce $1 of GDP growth. The productivity of capital continued to be impressive until 1980 when Europe had recovered and Japan was producing cars and consumer electronics products that found wide acceptance in world markets.
In the single decade of the 1980s, the productivity of capital declined from a level where it took less than $2 of investment to produce $1 of growth to one where about $3 was needed. If you assign a 30 per cent gross margin to that revenue growth, the return on investment declined from 15 per cent to 10 per cent.
That level of return proved to be satisfactory, but in the first decade of the current century capital productivity declined seriously in the US. Because of profligate spending on over-priced housing and other assets that declined seriously, as well as deficit spending by the government, by the end of the decade it took $6 of capital to produce $1 of growth. The return on that would only be 5 per cent and few would put money at risk for that reward.
When you look abroad to assess our competitive position, the results are not encouraging. It is hard to put together comparable information but, based on the data I could gather, Europe was still getting $1 of growth for $2 of investment and China was getting at least $1 of growth for each dollar of investment.
FT.COM
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Pa-pa Jameriko!
Samo da nas sledeci put ne budu ubedjivali atomskim oruzjem - od svoje silne gluposti i nemoci!
Ne daj Boze!
Šta nam napriča ovaj čovek.
Što se Srbije tiče, sve je jasnije da je izbor između europe i potpunog prestanka Srbije, i nestanka Srba kao naroda, ili udaljavanje što je više moguće od europe, i živeti na svome od svojega. Usput, mora se, naravno, zahtevati, povratak sve ukradene imovine, a pre svega teritorija pod okupacijom euroatlantske narkomafije. Sve u svemu, vreme je da se osnuje nova stranka u Srbiji, s programom koji nema pristupanje kojekakvim europskim čivijašlucima. Makar ne na prvoj strani.
ista vam je priča u Srbijji samo još gora..zar je normalno da ćata, podstanar u BGD bolje živi od njegovog zemljaka vlasnika plantaža jabuka i šljiva?
a hrana u svetu (a "Beograd je svet")preskupa i sve skuplja i skuplja
problem i tamo i vamo je ŠTO (više) NEMA KAPITALIZMA, LIBERALNE EKONOMIJE I DEMOKRATIJE
al ima Miška i Mlađana
Funds' role in Greek drama examined
By Sam Jones, Hedge Fund Correspondent
/.../
Until recently, the cost of buying such protection was very cheap, with few in the market seeing a sovereign default as a likely event. Indeed, until the banking crisis hit in 2008, 10-year CDS protection on Greek government debt could be purchased for as little as 20 basis points - 0.2 per cent of the amount insured - per annum.
The hedge funds buying up the CDS protection, however, did so without owning the underlying bonds. This so-called "naked" CDS trading is a particular issue regulators are keen to look into. The funds buying up Greek CDS in 2009 were not expecting to profit from an actual Greek default.
/.../
Hedge funds anticipated that if the Greek government's financial situation deteriorated - as they expected - then the owners of the approximately $300bn of outstanding Greek bonds, would be desperate for credit protection, or else would look to sell their holdings.
Having already locked in credit protection cheaply, if such a situation were to occur - as it did - the hedge funds would then be in a position to write credit insurance at a significant premium to panicking banks, or else buy up Greek bonds being dumped in the market for a decent yield. In the event, the trade paid handsomely.
Insiders say bank-run hedging operations, known as CVA desks, which are classed as risk management units rather than proprietary traders, have been the biggest recent buyers of CDS on Greece and have been the main cause of Greek spreads widening.
ft.com
How investment banks got Italy’s local authorities hooked on derivatives
The most common was the interest rate swap, which in the case of the larger entities was often coupled with a bond issue. The local authority would pay, on a monthly or quarterly basis, an amount of interest on either a fixed or floating rate basis. In return they received floating or fixed rate amounts (which could be used to pay interest on the bond issue, if any). By doing this local authorities hoped to get lower interest rates and cut their borrowing costs. Whether they did so mostly depended on movements in eurozone interest rates.
According to Italian Treasury sources and those advising the authorities, the majority of these deals were on fair commercial terms. However, advisers say that in some cases the pricing of the swaps was modelled in such a way that the authority would lose money in almost any economic environment and would have to pay significant amounts to unwind the transaction.
Upper and lower limits on interest rate movements – “caps” and “floors” – were set so as to minimise the risk for the bank. For example, even if interest rates fell below the percentage identified as the “floor”, the entity would still be required to pay interest calculated at the “floor” percentage. Upfront payments, effectively a cash advance, could be incorporated into a transaction to benefit the town or city at the start of a deal, but in return they would usually have to pay higher rates in the longer term, which could cause losses to add up. Banks could also restructure swaps to extend their maturity. Like a personal loan this would have the effect of reducing outgoing payments in the short term but those payments would run for much longer and the final sum would often be higher...
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*Time to outlaw naked credit default swaps by Wolfgang Münchau
By Rachel Sanderson, Guy Dinmore and Gillian Tett
/.../
Between 2001 and 2008, 525 Italian local authorities entered into almost 1,000 interest rate swaps with an aggregate value of €35bn, according to Italy’s audit office and the central bank. This equates to almost one third of all of the debt owed by Italy’s regions, provinces and municipalities.
Local authorities were attracted to the swaps because they saw them as an opportunity to borrow at rates lower than prevailing market rates. They would swap their existing fixed-rate lending for a variable rate with the investment banks. In a period of low rates, when many of the deals were struck, this meant local authorities on a variable rate could find their borrowing costs shrank. However, as interest rates rose, local authorities would find themselves on the losing side of their bet with the banks as the amount they owed increased.
Scores of these deals are now turning sour, dragging Italian banks such as BNL and global institutions such as Merrill Lynch, UBS, Deutsche Bank and JPMorgan into court
/.../
Then, the same year, the municipality of Milan lodged a legal case accusing banks that in 2005 underwrote a €1.8bn bond and swap financing transaction – Deutsche, JPMorgan, UBS and Depfa, a German state institution – of making €100m profit at the city’s expense. In a parallel criminal case, bankers, including Gaetano Bassolino of UBS, the son of a Naples politician, were accused of aggravated fraud. The banks, which are fighting the accusations, declined to comment.
The dispute relating to the Milan transaction is considered a test case. Questions remain as to who will pick up the tab for the losses. The Treasury has distanced itself from the disputes and says the losses do not present a macroeconomic problem. Giulio Tremonti, finance minister, calls the impact “very limited”.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0d29fbdc-2aef-11df-886b-00144feabdc0.html
To je partija i njen ogranak koja mrzi sve sto je zajednicko i namenjeno zajednici. Gospodo pre nego sto zauzmete stavove, razmotrite cinjenice, ko pise i zasto. Gore pomenuti pisac clanka, iz dna duse mrzi sve tekovine evropskog drustva, koje je omugucilo svojim stanovnicima sve ono sto je uskraceno piscevim sunarodnicima. Ono sto Vam, kako se sam ispravno deklarise sebicni, Mark Stain nudi su tekovine sistema koji je zdravstvo pretvorio u biznis te kao rezultat toga 50 miliona amerikanaca su bez ikakvog zdravstvenog osiguraja, a i oni koji su osigurani moraju nakon svake posete lekaru da provedu par dana na telefonu svadjajuci se sa svojim osiguranjem da prizna i plati troskove. To je sistem gde ljudi priterani, zbog bolesti moraju da idu u bankrot. Marc i njegovi istomisljenici bi da ukinu sve drustvene skole, i koji bi da obrazovanje okrenu ili u profit ili u religiozne "self schooling" To je sistem koji trenutno ima najvise zatvorenika per capita, a privatni zatvori su jedan od biznisa koji su u velikom isponu. Zbog toga je u Pensilvaniji sudija bezrazlozno osudjivao decu i slao ih u privatni zatvor na nezasluzeno dugacke kazne, da bi se kasnije ustanovilo da je delio profit po svakom osudjenom detetu. Marc daje recept za natalitet iz sistema gde majka ima samo 60 dana porodiljskog bolovanja, a i to bi ukinuli samo da moze?
Gospodine Stain, dovoljno ste zla svojom sebicnoscu naneli svojim sugradjanima, nemojte nama pricati o natalitetu i brizi o deci. Vasom sebicnoscu napravili ste da Vam deca zavrsavaju skole sa toliko velikim dugom koga ne mogu da se oslobode najmanje pola svog radnog veka. Nisu Obamini nego Busevi dugovi izazvani ratom i smanjivanjem takse najbogatijima.
Gospodo, upravo ovim recima Marc Stain-a americko drustvo je unisteno gledano od vremena Regana pa do danas. Oni koji su najvise verovali ovim recima su sada najpogodjeniji.